Opened 13 years ago
Closed 12 years ago
#543 closed defect (Unrelated)
ThinkCentre A57: Throttling does not work
Reported by: | herwigb | Owned by: | David Azarewicz |
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Priority: | major | Milestone: | Feedback pending |
Component: | ACPI PSD | Version: | 3.20.01 |
Keywords: | Cc: |
Description
While throttling works normally on Windows, it does not with eCS. From the acpica.log I see that it starts the powerman thread, but says a short time later that 0 of 4 CPUs are controllable.
Attachments (3)
Change History (10)
by , 13 years ago
Attachment: | acpica.log added |
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comment:1 by , 13 years ago
In order for throttling to work it must be correctly defined in ACPI. Apparently your system's ACPI does not define throttling, so the PSD cannot know how to do it. This is not a defect in the PSD. The PSD can only do what is defined in ACPI.
follow-up: 3 comment:2 by , 13 years ago
I see. Given the fact that I have a range of several Lenovo machines (TC A57, M57, A58, A70, TS 100) to support (none of these handles throttling properly with eCS) - is there anything I can do about that?
Do I understand correctly that the ACPI tables of these machines must be faulty/incomplete?
I started to read about ACPI tables, used iasl do decompile, even was able to fix warnings and recompile and use acpiexec to load the recompiled .aml files without complaining... not really knowing exactly what I am doing ;-)
comment:3 by , 13 years ago
Milestone: | Release Version 4.0.0 → Feedback pending |
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Replying to herwigb:
I see. Given the fact that I have a range of several Lenovo machines (TC A57, M57, A58, A70, TS 100) to support (none of these handles throttling properly with eCS) - is there anything I can do about that?
Sorry, but no. Throttling is rarely supported anymore.
Do I understand correctly that the ACPI tables of these machines must be faulty/incomplete?
Probably not. Modern hardware uses more complex power management instead of throttling so it is possible that throttling is not even supported by the hardware. These new more complex methods (Cool'n'Quiet, PowerNow!, SpeedStep, etc) require custom CPU drivers specific to the processor installed. The user interface for these more complex power management methods may wrongly refer to it as "throttling", but it is not throttling as ACPI defines it.
comment:4 by , 13 years ago
Get the latest version (3.20.03). Run acpistat and that will tell you if throttling is supported on your system. You probably don't want throttling with this version anyway.
comment:5 by , 13 years ago
The version of ACPI.PSD that is installed is 3.20.03 The system is operating in Symmetric mode (Mode 2) The kernel is 14.105_SMP The retail PSD is installed Number of IRQs available: 24 IRQ 00 count 2817395 IRQ 01 count 7620 IRQ 08 count 7089443 IRQ 09 count 5888 IRQ 12 count 261837 IRQ 16 count 1896 IRQ 17 count 173474 IRQ 19 count 100332 ========== CPU0 ================== ACPI name [P001] IPIGenCount = 9599343 IPICount = 2506197 IPIHLT = 0 IdleCount = 12539013 BusyCount = 2100343 ========== CPU1 ================== ACPI name [P002] IPIGenCount = 449431 IPICount = 5522865 IPIHLT = 0 IdleCount = 181713 BusyCount = 181712 ========== CPU2 ================== ACPI name [P003] IPIGenCount = 1148932 IPICount = 5309061 IPIHLT = 0 IdleCount = 505246 BusyCount = 505245 ========== CPU3 ================== ACPI name [P004] IPIGenCount = 5906453 IPICount = 3766036 IPIHLT = 0 IdleCount = 1636542 BusyCount = 1636541 This system does not support CPU Performance Control via ACPI. This system does not support CPU Throttling. Thermal information: No Thermal information is available for this computer No AC status is available for this computer
Hmmh, I think this says it all.
comment:6 by , 13 years ago
Yeah, that is pretty clear, isn't it. You would need a separate custom driver for your specific CPU to take advantage of any processor specific power management. However, the new kernel patch for idle time halt should help some. You should also enable the Power Manager so it can stop CPUs 1, 2 and 3 when they are not needed. That is about the best you can do on that system.
comment:7 by , 12 years ago
Resolution: | → Unrelated |
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Status: | new → closed |
Yes, the idle stuff seems to help. And power manager stops CPU1,2 and 3 successfully when idle. Thx for your efforts!
acpica.log from boot...