Opened 15 years ago

Closed 12 years ago

#375 closed defect (unknown)

T43 2200 b/g wireless card won't initiate under ACPI when starting on battery power

Reported by: dedr79 Owned by:
Priority: major Milestone: Feedback pending
Component: ACPI PSD Version: 3.14
Keywords: Cc:

Description

Thinkpad T43 w/ Intel 2200 b/g wireless (8086:4220). The wireless card works fine under APM. Using ACPI there are never error messages during boot, but if starting on battery power the card will fail to initialize even though the drivers seem to load OK (only indication is a long pause last thing before the WPS comes up) and xWLAN displays a "No WLAN card detected" error, and the card ID.

The BIOS is obviously at fault; if I wait to plug it in until after POST but before starting OS boot, wireless LAN fails. If I plug it in after power up but before POST finishes, it usually works OK. Evidently, something is different between power up on AC and power up on battery that only affects the wireless card.

Attachments (12)

acpi_AC.log (13.6 KB) - added by dedr79 15 years ago.
acpi_DC.log (15.1 KB) - added by dedr79 15 years ago.
acpi_AC-DC.log (14.4 KB) - added by dedr79 15 years ago.
BIOS_SE1.JPG (181.0 KB) - added by dedr79 15 years ago.
BIOS_SE2.JPG (184.3 KB) - added by dedr79 15 years ago.
BIOS_SET.JPG (192.5 KB) - added by dedr79 15 years ago.
acpi_AC-AllOff.log (11.9 KB) - added by dedr79 15 years ago.
acpi_AC-DC-AC-AllOff.log (4.1 KB) - added by dedr79 15 years ago.
acpi_DC-AllOff.log (11.9 KB) - added by dedr79 15 years ago.
acpi_AC-DC-AC_Enabled.log (19.4 KB) - added by dedr79 15 years ago.
acpi_AC_Enabled.log (12.0 KB) - added by dedr79 15 years ago.
acpi_DC_Enabled.log (12.7 KB) - added by dedr79 15 years ago.

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Change History (29)

Changed 15 years ago by dedr79

Attachment: acpi_AC.log added

Changed 15 years ago by dedr79

Attachment: acpi_DC.log added

comment:1 Changed 15 years ago by eco

e-co:

Please show us BIOS Setup settings related to Power, WakeUp?, ..

Do you use official Genmac drivers? Or self-made package for 2200?

comment:2 Changed 15 years ago by pasha

Owner: changed from pasha to Pasha

Can you boot with AC on, after boot remove power, wiat 1 minute, insert power cable, then produce acpi.log?

comment:3 Changed 15 years ago by pasha

Please download experimental ACPI build from Mensys site:

  • Experimental build for you:

ACPI-APIC-BAT.ZIP

Changed 15 years ago by dedr79

Attachment: acpi_AC-DC.log added

Changed 15 years ago by dedr79

Attachment: BIOS_SE1.JPG added

Changed 15 years ago by dedr79

Attachment: BIOS_SE2.JPG added

Changed 15 years ago by dedr79

Attachment: BIOS_SET.JPG added

comment:4 in reply to:  2 Changed 15 years ago by dedr79

Replying to pasha:

Can you boot with AC on, after boot remove power, wiat 1 minute, insert power cable, then produce acpi.log?

I'm using the official Genmac drivers included with RC5 and 6a. I've uploaded the ACPI log file (APCI_AC-DC.log), switching to DC after boot-up, as requested, and 3 photos of the BIOS Power screen. I'll try the experimental ACPI version provided as soon as possible. Thanks.

comment:5 Changed 15 years ago by eco

e-co:

what happens if you change the value of Mode for battery = .. and other modes related to battery.

Does it influence to WiFi??

comment:6 Changed 15 years ago by aschn

On the first BIOS screenshot, I recognized that you have SpeedStep activated. I would disable that at first.

(The R52 and other similar models, e.g. the T43p, had a problem some years ago, which I don't remember anymore. You'll find it in this Bugtracker, it was reported by Roderick.)

Andreas

comment:7 Changed 15 years ago by aschn

Here's the link to the SpeedStep ticket: #142. (I'm quite sure that this has never been fixed.)

Of course it's better to use APM instead of ACPI for models of that generation. APM-supperted suspend and resume work well, the same applies to SpeedStep support.

comment:9 in reply to:  7 Changed 15 years ago by dedr79

Replying to aschn:

Here's the link to the SpeedStep ticket: #142. (I'm quite sure that this has never been fixed.)

You are right, this is the same problem. I tried a few BIOS settings, but nothing made any difference until I disabled SpeedStep?. I hadn't noticed that ticket.

Of course it's better to use APM instead of ACPI for models of that generation.

Yes, I knew this all along because I used it first and saw the huge advantage to a properly functioning suspend/resume. However, there are also valid reasons to having a fully functioning ACPI, such as eventual access to the voltage table for the processor, etc. I know that also helps greatly for heat production and battery life because I've messed with those using Windows based ACPI utilities. That's why I've been hoping some of these things get looked at and fixed.

So the wireless card is now working properly with a battery start-up. Does disabling SpeedStep? also disable throttling?

comment:10 in reply to:  3 Changed 15 years ago by dedr79

Replying to pasha:

Please download experimental ACPI build from Mensys site:

  • Experimental build for you:

ACPI-APIC-BAT.ZIP

I installed the experimental ACPI drivers mentioned above, but I'm not sure what to look for or how to follow up. They don't make any difference in the startup, except in the output on screen. The output is totally different between battery and AC startups. I also repeated the log gathering, if you want that.

I did follow others' suggestions that I disable SpeedStep?, and that makes it work on a battery startup - I'm sorry I hadn't noticed the older ticket. That hardly seems like a reasonable conclusion though; we need it all working together to call it fixed, don't we?

comment:11 Changed 15 years ago by pasha

acpi log from new version? About BIOS. I want 2 log. With all disable in BIOS and with all enable.

Changed 15 years ago by dedr79

Attachment: acpi_AC-AllOff.log added

Changed 15 years ago by dedr79

Attachment: acpi_AC-DC-AC-AllOff.log added

Changed 15 years ago by dedr79

Attachment: acpi_DC-AllOff.log added

Changed 15 years ago by dedr79

Attachment: acpi_AC-DC-AC_Enabled.log added

Changed 15 years ago by dedr79

Attachment: acpi_AC_Enabled.log added

Changed 15 years ago by dedr79

Attachment: acpi_DC_Enabled.log added

comment:12 in reply to:  11 Changed 15 years ago by dedr79

Replying to pasha:

acpi log from new version? About BIOS. I want 2 log. With all disable in BIOS and with all enable.

OK, I've added the logs with the experimental ACPI drivers, three with everything power related off in BIOS and three with it all turned on. Of course, with everything off the wifi works and with it enabled it doesn't. Thanks.

comment:13 Changed 15 years ago by Steven Levine

Owner: changed from Pasha to pasha

comment:14 Changed 15 years ago by eco

e-co:

Pasha: Yes. Log is digfference.

Steven: What is the difference and does it explain the reporter's issue?

comment:15 Changed 15 years ago by pasha

Owner: pasha deleted

comment:16 Changed 12 years ago by David Azarewicz

Milestone: Release version 3.19Feedback pending

This ticket is extremely old and for an unsupported version. Have you tried the current version?

comment:17 Changed 12 years ago by David Azarewicz

Resolution: unknown
Status: newclosed

No response from reporter.

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